Category Archives: Podcast

Swarfcast Ep. 18 – Jerry Levine on Why Global Warming is Not a Problem

By Noah and Lloyd Graff

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In today’s podcast we interviewed Jerry Levine. A chemical engineer, Jerry Levine’s working career stretched from polyester to politics. He led the team at Amoco Chemicals that conquered the production problems in making polyester in the 1960s.

Jerry then learned what it was like to live under Communism when he helped set up a polyester plant in East Germany well before the Berlin Wall came down.

He later returned to Amoco’s corporate office in Chicago, finding his niche as a lobbyist for the company and “Big Oil.”

Jerry holds the view that Global Warming fears have been fueled by faulty and sometimes deliberately contrived data to protect scientific jobs and reputations, and to build political careers. He feels that ardent advocates of Global Warming theories often have “no growth” philosophies which mask hidden Socialist agendas.

Question: Do you believe global warming is mostly caused by human activity?

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Swarfcast Ep. 17 – Making it in America with Armand Barnils

By Noah and Lloyd Graff

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In today’s podcast we interviewed Armand Barnils, plant manager of the U.S. division of Ventura Precision Components, a multinational precision machining company headquartered in Barcelona, Spain.

Armand grew up on the outskirts of Barcelona and studied Industrial Engineering in Spain. Through a foreign exchange program he came to the United States and earned a Masters Degree in Industrial Technology and Operations at the Illinois Institute of Technology.

At age 23 he moved to Pasadena, Texas, just outside of Houston, to work at Ventura Precision Components. Two years later his boss left, and at just 25 years old he became the shop’s plant manager.

In the interview Armand recounted his life’s journey from Barcelona to Chicago to Pasadena, Texas, and opined on the career opportunities he believes are unique to the United States.

Question: Do you believe in the American Dream?

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Swarfcast Ep. 16 – Bill Cox on the Evolution of a Machining Business

By Noah and Lloyd Graff

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In today’s podcast we interviewed Bill Cox, owner of Cox Manufacturing in San Antonio, Texas, a job shop that makes parts for a variety of industries—oil and energy, medical, and defense to name a few.

Bill’s father started the company in 1956 but died when Bill was age 12. The evening of his father’s funeral a customer had the audacity to ask Bill’s mother if he could buy the company. She asked Bill that night if he was interested in going into the family business and Bill said he was. From that day forward Bill’s mom, a sharp business woman in her own right, taught him the management side of running the company, while the guys in the shop developed his technical skills. By his 20s Bill was taking the helm at Cox Manufacturing.

We at Graff-Pinkert have had the pleasure of dealing with Bill for decades, on both the buying and selling side of the equipment trade. He continues to impress us with his business savvy and grasp of the trends in the machining business.

Question: Are current wage levels too low to attract good enough good people for machine shops?

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Swarfcast Ep. 15 – George Breiwa on Machining Vaporizers

By Noah Graff

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About two months ago I got a call from a company asking for a price on a Traub TNL18 on our Graff-Pinkert Website. For those unfamiliar, Traub makes arguably the heaviest, most expensive and advanced CNC Swiss machines on the market—the “the Hummer of CNC Swiss” one could say. I asked the caller what his application was, thinking it was a medical part to justify such an expensive machine, but the caller told me it was for making a unique vaporizer that had no moving parts and no battery.

George Breiwa started his company DynaVap to produce a mechanism called a VapCap that gives smokers of tobacco and other substances (one legalized this week in Canada) an alternative to smoking. People have built vaporizers for a long time, but what makes DynaVap’s VapCap unique is that while other Vaporizers require a power source usually from batteries or a wall socket the VapCap operates using heat from an external source such as a lighter or candle.

In the interview Breiwa discusses DynaVap’s evolution from making its first pieces on South Bend Lathes to ordering its first new Traubs. He explains his philosophy to make simple yet elegant parts using complex CNC equipment which he hopes will make an impact.

You can learn more about DynaVap at www.dynavap.com.

Question: Can a solo inventor with a South Bend Lathe still change the world?

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Swarfcast Ep. 14 – Scott Livingston on Combining Cycling and Citizens in His Machining Business

By Noah and Lloyd Graff

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Scott Livingston’s Grandfather Horst, after whom Horst Engineering Company in Connecticut was named, often talked about bicycles with Scott during his childhood.  Cycling was part of Horst’s life in Germany before he fled from the Nazis in 1938 and came to America.

Horst started his machining company in 1946, and Scott and his family run it today.  While the core business is now aerospace products made on Swiss screw machines and thread-rolled parts, a growing piece of the business is a niche product for bikers, toe spikes.

Scott and the Horst company have meshed a passion for cycling, especially the growing sport of cyclo-cross, which features many laps of short-course racing on pavement, wooded trails, grass and steep hills.  Cyclo-cross requires the rider to dismount and carry their cycle.  Riders usually end up muddy but smiling, riding sturdy bikes with fattish tires.  Good toe spikes are a must, and Horst’s are popular all over the world.

Scott and his family are regulars on the race circuit, and Horst sponsors a team.  Scott’s wife, who is also an ultramarathon runner, and his children join in the competitions.

The vision of Scott’s grandfather to develop a cycling product for his machining firm has been realized by Scott, and cycling has led to many networking opportunities for the company to find kindred spirits for Horst Manufacturing’s growing business.

Question: Have you been able to combine athletic interests and work?

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Swarfcast Ep. 13 – Jason Zenger on “Making Chips” and the Industrial Supplies Business

By Noah Graff

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In today’s podcast I interviewed Jason Zenger, president of Zenger’s Industrial Supply, in Melrose Park, Illinois, a company that specializes in selling tooling and industrial supplies to the metal working industry. Jason also has a popular podcast called “Making Chips,” which he cohosts with Jim Carr of Carr Machine & Tool.

Jason and I discussed how he eventually came to work at his family’s business and how it has grown and modernized over the years. Rather than simply distribute commodity products the company’s strategy is to become its customers’ single source supplier for tooling and machining accessories like drills, inserts, hand tools, etc.

I see some parallels between Jason’s podcast “Making Chips” and Today’s Machining World’s “Swarfcast” in our focus on similar topics in the metal working industry. Also for those of you baffled by our podcast’s and blog’s name, “Swarf” actually is a reference to the chips and grime in the belly of a metal cutting machine. One major difference between our podcasts is that “Swarfcast” is hosted by machinery dealers, while “Making Chips” is produced in the lens of a tooling and machinery supplies vender, and the owner of a machining company in Jim Carr.

Listen to “Making Chips” at https://www.makingchips.com/, or any apps (iTunes, etc.) where you get your podcasts.

Question: How are tariffs affecting your business?

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Swarfcast Ep. 12 – Logan McGhan on Reinventing a Career in the Machining World

By Noah and Lloyd Graff

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In today’s podcast we interviewed Logan McGhan, a used machine tool dealer at the firm KD Capital.

Logan’s journey to selling used equipment spanned numerous stages. At around age 7, his father, who also worked in machining, brought home a complex part from a trade show that had been made on a CNC, and Logan knew that the machining industry was his calling. At 17 he built an entire rifle (aside from the scope) using manual equipment.

In his 20s he and his brother started a machining business making after-market accessories for UTVs and ATVs. After the economic disaster hit in 2008 Logan got out of running his own shop and excelled as a CNC programer in the aerospace and medical fields. During this time Logan sometimes bought and sold used machine tools on the side to get a little supplemental income, but he hadn’t considered it as a primary career.

Then a few years ago, Logan was in a car accident and suffered a concussion leaving his brain in a condition that made CNC programming difficult to do as a full-time job (though he still enjoys doing it). Today he has once again reinvented himself and become a machine tool dealer. At Graff-Pinkert, we have had fun working with Logan on several deals in the last year. He’s an excellent treasure hunter, which I believe has a lot to do with the variety of experiences that have led him to this point in time.

Question: If you had the opportunity to have any career, what would you do?

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Swarfcast Ep. 11 – Mike Fair of Rethink Robotics on Friendly Cobots

By Noah Graff

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At the 2018 International Machine Tool Show I recorded a podcast with Mike Fair, Product Manager of Rethink Robotics, a robotics company specializing in collaborative robots for use on the factory floor.

What sets Rethink Robots apart from several of the other collaborative robot companies I saw at IMTS is that their robot models have people’s names and they feature a display tablet placed in a position to resemble a head. The robot featured at the Rethink Robotics booth was called Sawyer. Rethink’s philosophy is to give collaborative robots, also known as cobots, a personality in order to make them more approachable to the people who work side by side with them. Fair said that industrial robots have always had the connotation of being dangerous. Making the robots more lifelike is the company’s attempt to create a more harmonious relationship between the robot and its coworker.

In the interview Fair described Sawyer’s roles on the shop floor, performing the tasks shop workers deem mundane, dirty, unpleasant and dangerous. He said that Sawyer is well suited for CNC machine tending, aiding in loading and unloading parts particularly during jobs with long cycle times. He said Sawyer is also useful for packaging and pick and place processes such as part inspection.

Question: Do robots scare you?

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Swarfcast Ep. 10 – John Griner, Twists and Turns of a Hydromat Shop

By Noah and Lloyd Graff

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In today’s Podcast we interviewed John Griner, founder of Griner Engineering in Bloomington, Indiana.

John has been cranking out turned parts for the last 40 years, and since the ‘90s his bread and butter has been the legacy Hydromat business.

He’s a renaissance man. He studies philosophy, flies planes and has played the guitar for 50 years. He has had 34 different startup businesses as diverse as centerless bar stock grinding, cold forming, video production, and an exotic animal business called “wild things.” But in the end, the one that always stuck was the multi-spindle/Hydromat business.

John Griner in New Orleans

We talked to John about how his machining business has evolved over the years. He started running single spindle screw machines, graduated to cam multi-spindles, then added Hydromats and finally introduced modern CNC turning equipment into the mix.

John talked with us about how he copes when deals go bad, how he finds good employees and why he prefers not to drug test in his shop.

Question: Is a strict drug testing policy a necessity for a successful machine shop?

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Swarfcast Ep. 9 – Russell Ethridge Small Business Lawyer

By Lloyd Graff

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Today Brett Kavanaugh is being interrogated in hearings of the Senate Judiciary Committee as he attempts to thread the political needle to become a U.S. Supreme Court Justice.

In today’s podcast I interviewed Russell Ethridge, a solo practitioner lawyer in Detroit, who also listens to cases as a judge two days a month for the humongous sum of $15,000 a year. He believes the legal system must work for the guy accused of drunk driving for the second time and the secretary in the local real estate firm accused of embezzling $65,000.

Russ has been Graff-Pinkert’s lawyer for 25 years. I got to know him when he was spending a stint in Jamestown, New York, representing a French multi-national called Valeo. He sold Graff-Pinkert 13 Wickman multi-spindle screw machines for more money than I wanted to pay. Good negotiator.

Russell Ethridge

Ethridge has a knack for quickly assessing the nub of the issue in a potential legal hassle and pointing to a way out with the least aggravation possible. Many lawyers like to milk a case for the billable hours. Russ thinks the opposite way, always looking for the smartest, most efficient resolution of the problem.

Russ’s Dad was the Editor of the Detroit Free Press in its heyday in the late 1960s and ’70s. In Russ’s younger days he worked as a reporter for a tiny paper in West Virginia close to where his grandfather practiced law for 60 years.

Russ’s grandfather had a one man retail legal practice, which to some degree was a model for Russ. In the podcast Russ discusses the impact his grandfather’s funeral had on him when he observed the huge cross section of people who talked about how his grandfather had helped them over the years. Russell Ethridge—lawyer, judge, one man band—continues his legacy.

Question 1: Is our legal system rigged against the little guy?

Question 2: Would you prefer to pay a lawyer by the hour or by the job?

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